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Meet Pakistan’s JF-17 Thunder: A Pitiful ‘Successor’ to the F-16

JF-17 fighter. Image Credit: Creative Commons.

U.S.-Pakistani relations have long had a bipolar disorder-like history. On the positive side of the ledger, America had a substantive relationship in the 1980s with then-strongman Gen. Zia-ul-Haq as the two countries cooperated to support the Afghanistan mujahideen rebels’ resistance campaign against the Soviet occupation; this was a major boost to the Ronald Reagan Administration’s policy of rollback of the Soviet Union. In addition, in the early days of the Global War On Terror, then-POTUS George W. Bush had a productive relationship with then-Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf. On the negative side of the ledger, Pakistan’s security apparatus, particularly their infamous Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, has long been supportive of the Taliban. Even more irksome for the U.S, given the current state of global affairs, has been Pakistan’s cozy relationship with America’s biggest global adversary, Red China. That buddy-buddy Sino-Pakistani relationship is embodied in the JF-17 fighter jet program.

An Unholy Alliance?

The CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder (Urdu: جے ایف-17 گرج) AKA the Xiaolong (枭龙; “Fierce Dragon”) is a joint venture by the PRC’s Chengdu Aircraft Corporation – the same company that produces the J-20 Wēilóng (“Mighty Dragon”) fighter – and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC). It is a lightweight, single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft, intended to replace the ageing A-5C, F-7P/PG, Mirage III, and Mirage V combat aircraft in the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) arsenal, though the  “-17” denoting that, in the PAF’s viewpoint, it is the successor to the F-16 Fighting Falcon – sales of the F-16 to Islamabad have been yet another ongoing bone of contention in U.S.-Pakistani relations.

The Thunder made its maiden flight on 25 August 2003 and was officially introduced into PAF service on 12 March 2007. Additional users are the Nigerian Air Force and Myanmar Air Force, and reportedly the Iraqi Air Force (IqAF) has set aside over $600 million USD (875.9 billion Iraqi dinars) to purchase 12 of the jets to supplement its fleet of F-16s and Czech-made Aero L-159 ALCA light combat aircraft. 164 airframes have been built thus far.

Yet another potential foreign customer is Argentina, which would put PAC in direct competition with south Asian subcontinental archrival India and that country’s homegrown HAL Tejas lightweight fighter aircraft. A June 2022 article by Usman Ansari and Jose Higuera in DefenseNews reported a visit to Pakistan by Gen. Juan Martín Paleo, the head of Argentina’s joint military staff that in turn fed speculation that a JF-17 fighter jet deal was potentially on the horizon. The reporters added that in May, “a delegation of [Argentine] Air Force pilots and technicians evaluated the JF-17 in China. This included a full technical evaluation, use of a simulator and evaluation flights. In the more recent trip to Pakistan, officials discussed collaboration on defense materiel production during a visit to the Ministry of Defence Production.”


PAC’s official info page on the JF-17 lists the warbird as having a fuselage length of 47 feet, a height of 15 feet, a wingspan of 31 feet, an empty weight of 7,965 kg (17,559 lbs.) and a maximum takeoff weight of 13,500 kg (29,762 lbs.). Max airspeed is 1.6 Mach (1,190 mph/1,910 kph/1,030 knots) with an Indicated Airspeed (IAS; presumably a synonym for cruising speed?) of 700 knots. Service ceiling is 55,500 feet, ferry range is listed at 1,880 nautical miles. Armament-wise, there are 8 hardpoints capable of carrying a variety of air-to-air missiles, air-to-surface missiles, or 3,400 kg (7,495 lbs.) worth of bombs; gun-wise, the official company literature only makes a generalized reference to a “23 mm double barrel gun,” whilst the Quwa Defence News website specifies it as a GSh-23-2.

As to whether the Fierce Dragon has actually lived up to its moniker in combat, conflicting stories abound. On the one hand, official PAF sources claim that JF-17s took part in Pakistan’s retaliatory 2019 Jammu and Kashmir airstrikes, in which Pakistan shot down an Indian MiG-21. On the other hand, Indian news agencies such Defence Aviation Post, in an apparent effort to one-up their Pakistani nemeses, tell a different story:

“Indian aircraft intercepted the Pakistani attack, and Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman shot down an F-16 that was much superior before crashing his vintage MiG-21 Bison in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK). The much-heralded Sino-Pak produced JF-17 was only there for show, did not see the air action, and remained hidden behind the American fighters as the US F-16 fired air-to-air missiles at Indian fighters. Due to a shortage of replacement parts for the Klimov RD 93 aircraft engine, which is built in Russia, the JF-17 programme is currently in a rut.” (emphasis added)

Unintended Consequences: Trouble In Pakistani Paradise

Speaking of “in a rut,” The Law of Unintended Consequences appears to be coming into play to the JF-17’s detriment. In essence, the sanctions placed upon Russia on account of their “special military operation” in Ukraine have led to a lack of spare parts for the Russian-made Klimov RD 93 aircraft engine, which has reportedly caused the PAF’s JF-17 fleet to be grounded. As Shishir Gupta of The Hindustan Times reported last month,

“Stung by multiple failures of JF-17 aircraft, primarily due to the serviceability of RD-93 engines, Pakistan had directly approached Russia for procuring the RD-93 engines, bypassing China. In the aftermath of multiple negotiations by Islamabad with Moscow, Russian engine company Kilmov has now indicated its willingness to supply RD-93 engines and its associated repair systems and maintenance facilities to JF-17 aircraft…However, in 2018, M/s Rosoboronexport, which is authorised to export defence equipment including RD- 93 engines and spares, was sanctioned by the US, thereby adversely affecting the sourcing of RD-93 engine spares by the PAF. The sanctions restrict Rosoboronexport from undertaking US dollar transactions, which the two governments and the concerned banks have now been attempting to sort out.”

If, when, and how these issues will be sorted out is anybody’s guess.

Christian D. Orr is a former Air Force Security Forces officer, Federal law enforcement officer, and private military contractor (with assignments worked in Iraq, the United Arab Emirates, Kosovo, Japan, Germany, and the Pentagon). Chris holds a B.A. in International Relations from the University of Southern California (USC) and an M.A. in Intelligence Studies (concentration in Terrorism Studies) from American Military University (AMU). He has also been published in The Daily Torch and The Journal of Intelligence and Cyber Security. Last but not least, he is a Companion of the Order of the Naval Order of the United States (NOUS). In his spare time, he enjoys shooting, dining out, cigars, Irish and British pubs, travel, USC Trojans college football, and Washington DC professional sports.

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Christian D. Orr is a former Air Force officer, Federal law enforcement officer, and private military contractor (with assignments worked in Iraq, the United Arab Emirates, Kosovo, Japan, Germany, and the Pentagon).



  1. Bender

    September 16, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    On paper the JF17 looks like a nice budget fighter for second-tier militaries.
    But of course depending on Russian parts has become a big “no-no” in this day and age..
    China will want come up with an home-grown engine.

  2. Foxtrot

    September 17, 2022 at 9:08 am

    The only thing I find ‘pitiful’ is the author’s emphasis on quoting Indian news outlets. Promoting one-sided point of view without considering any opinion from Pakistani sources only helps cast a shadow on the integrity of this otherwise wonderful blog.

  3. Hassan

    September 17, 2022 at 10:13 am

    From your article it does not seem pitiful at all. With a good replacement engine it would do well.

  4. Dr Ali

    September 17, 2022 at 10:56 am

    Biased opinions, one sided as usual. Pro Indian mentality.

  5. Obdurate

    September 17, 2022 at 11:04 am

    What a poor piece of article. The information and tone of this article is typical of Indian authors who got emotional when they write anything related to Pakistan. It seems as if the writer was paid to write this low quality article by some Indian agency.

  6. Sarcastigarius

    September 17, 2022 at 12:34 pm

    This is a poor piece of information. What’s more funny is quoting jubilant indian whose 100% airforce supplies come from Russia. Even more funny is they call RD93 as a failed engine but always thobbing their chest for Su-27 which flies with 2 of RD93 variant. Lol

  7. Basel

    September 17, 2022 at 1:19 pm

    JF-17 was never meant to replace F-16s in Pakistan Air Force, JF-17 was and will be workhorse of PAF as it was / is not Frontline fighter of PAF, but as China progresses in tech and US not allowing advance tech for PAF, the Block-3 has surpassed the F-16s of PAF in terms of several capabilities, due to advance avionics and weapons specially the standoff weapons, also JF-17 is made to be modular in design which allow it to have systems from east and west depending on customer, for engine PAF have full overhaul capability for Russian RD-93 engine and also have Chinese more capable engine available if required.

  8. Aviator 141

    September 17, 2022 at 4:28 pm

    Did you ever considered the mechanics or did you ever see the machine fly what engine is being used what kind of avionic and sensor
    Sir your article is pitiful and next time do your research rather than copy an article

  9. KamAdmi

    September 17, 2022 at 8:56 pm

    Not even an indiot has appreciated this collection of alphabet from a psuedo intellectual

  10. Aero35

    September 18, 2022 at 12:28 am

    More pitiful is the qualification of the author which is just a BA and MA degree in some pitiful subjects. And he is trying to write a technical article. A very poor attempt. By studying strategy and military history you do not become an aerospace engineering expert. So atleast research and then write. Shameful and false Indian propaganda is not the material you should be quoting. It hurts yours credentials as an writer. Try to do better next time if you are attempting to write a technical article.

  11. Bilal Ahmad Sheikh

    September 18, 2022 at 12:48 am

    I think you are trying to down grade JF-17 technically, but reality is different, PAF and PAC leave Indian far behind. Indian LCA is not ready even after 40 years. Many countries faces issues in products,and resolve it.

  12. Zulfiqar

    September 19, 2022 at 1:47 am

    Kindly correct your findings. For kind of your information no F16 was shot down it was also verified by US authority. It was just Indian lying prorganda by Indian govt for embarrasing face saving.

  13. Alpha

    September 20, 2022 at 5:06 am

    Bullshit indian propaganda

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