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Moskva Sinking: Russia Claims Only 1 Death from Neptune Missile Strike

Moskva
"Moskva" ("Moscow") (ex-"Slava", which means "Glory") is the lead ship of the Project 1164 Atlant class of guided missile cruisers in the Russian Navy. This warship was used in the 2008 Russia-Georgia War. The Black Sea. Sevastopol bay. This photo was taken from a boat.

Russia Claims Only One Death from Moskva Sinking – On Friday, the Russian Defense Ministry claimed that just one serviceman died in the sinking of its flagship Moskva in the Black Sea. The ministry said that an additional 27 people are missing, and 396 were rescued. 

Russia still insists that the sinking was caused by a munition explosion set off by a fire that started inside of the ship. Ukraine took credit for the sinking and revealed that the ship was hit by two Neptune missiles.  

The Kremlin also claimed that the fire was caused by “heavy storms” and that all crew members were evacuated from the ship.

The statement comes a week after the ship, which recently underwent maintenance and refurbishment that would ensure it remains in service until 2040, sank in the Black Sea. It was not just a symbolic defeat for Russia but also set back Russian forces relying on the ship for support in the south of Ukraine. 

Other Dispute Russia’s Numbers

Families of Russian soldiers deployed in Ukraine are publicly contradicting Russia’s claims about the official Moskva death county, insisting that their deployed family members personally know of dozens of people who died on the Russian flagship.

One mother told the Novaya Gazeta Europe newspaper that her son, who survived the attack, told her that at least 40 people died and many more were wounded or missing. The newspaper also said that it had reviewed documents showing that the woman’s son served in the navy, giving some legitimacy to her claims. 

Neptune Anti-Ship Missile

Neptune Anti-Ship Missile. Image Credit: Creative Commons.

“There are dead, there are wounded, there are missing. My son called me when they were given phones. They left their documents and phones on the ship. He calls me and cries from what he saw. It was scary. It is clear that not everyone survived,” the woman told the newspaper on the condition of anonymity. 

Radio Liberty also shared a post in “Odnoklassniki” that was dedicated to a 41-year-old midshipman named Ivan Vakhrushev who served as an electrical engineer on the ship. The wife of Vakhrushev, Varvara Vakhrusheva, confirmed to Radio Liberty that her husband had died in the attack on the Moskva. She also said that her husband’s death was confirmed to her on April 14 by the “command.”

Moskva

Moskva Cruiser. Image Credit: Creative Commons.

The evidence seems to suggest that Russia is purposely withholding the true numbers of casualties and deaths caused by the Ukrainian attack.

Jack Buckby is a British author, counter-extremism researcher, and journalist based in New York. Reporting on the U.K., Europe, and the U.S., he works to analyze and understand left-wing and right-wing radicalization, and reports on Western governments’ approaches to the pressing issues of today. His books and research papers explore these themes and propose pragmatic solutions to our increasingly polarized society.

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Jack Buckby is a British author, counter-extremism researcher, and journalist based in New York. Reporting on the U.K., Europe, and the U.S., he works to analyze and understand left-wing and right-wing radicalization, and reports on Western governments’ approaches to the pressing issues of today. His books and research papers explore these themes and propose pragmatic solutions to our increasingly polarized society.

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  1. Alex

    April 23, 2022 at 9:08 am

    Nikakogo udara raketami Neptun ne bylo i byt’ ne moglo. Yest’ tri ofitsial’nyye versii: 1. Kreyser nashol na miny, 2. Vneshtatnaya ssituatsiya, 3. Kreyser nakhodilsya v rayone Odessy, blizhe k Rumynii. Na nego, god nazad postavili novyy lokator s fazirovannoy reshetkoy, dal’nost’ podsvetki 500 km. Dlya chego on tam nakhodilsya? Ukrainskiye samoloty pereleteli na aerodrom v Rumyniyu, i ottuda vzletali v storonu morya, delali kryuk, i so storony Odessy zakhodili na bereg, dal’she leteli na Dnepropetrovsk i Zaporozh’ye, i nanosili udary po voyskam RF. Vse aerodrom, v rayone Nikolayeva i Odessy razbity, i ne mogli ponyat’ otkuda? Poetomu pognali Moskvu s moshchnym lokatorom. On nachal svetit’ i s aerodromov Kryma i iz Pod Donetska nachali perekhvatyvat’ khokhlov nashi Su 35, tak byli sbity 9 MiGov i Sushek. Eto vse proschitali NATO. Snachala po kryseru udarili s bespilotnika, razbili lokatory i antenny. Kreyser sbil odin. No uzhe oslep napolovinu. Zatem s berega pustili khokhly 2 krylatyye rakety Neptun. Navedeniye osushchestvlyal natovskiy Orion, kotoryy visel nad Rumyniyey, on zhe vklyuchil REP, i zasvetil stantsiyu obnaruzheniya PVO kreysera. Rakety shli k korablyu, s vyklyuchennymi golovkami samonavedeniya, chtoby korabl’ ne obnaruzhil luch oblucheniya, navedeniye osushchestvlyal Orion NATO. Peredavaya tochnyye koordinaty korablya na rakety. Itog 2 popadaniya, podryv boyezapasa, i kreyser nachal tonut’. Kreyser “Moskva” pomimo osnovnogo prednaznacheniya – unichtozheniye KUG i AUG, sposoben obespechivat’ PVO korabel’noy udarnoy grppy na bol’shoy dal’nosti kompleksom S-300F «Fort», na dal’nost’ obnaruzheniya vozdushnykh tseley do 300km. Kreyseru byla postavlena zadacha: Neseniye boyevogo dezhurstva v 100-120 km ot Odessy s tsel’yu kontrolirolya vozdushnogo prostranstva v radiuse 250-300 km. T.o. obespechit’ perekrytiye svoim lokatsionnym polem yuzhnoy poloviny Moldovy, prostranstvo ot Izmaila do Odessy i chast’ territorii Rumynii (v t.ch. port Konstantsa). “Moskva” sil’no meshala skrytnym perebroskam voyennoy aviatekhniki (vertoloty i samoloty) s territorii Rumynii na territoriyu Ukrainy. Za kreyserom nablyudali po nemu rabotala vozdushnaya razvedka NATO. Unichtozheniye flagmana flota byla splanirovana kak strategicheskaya zadacha Poetomu operatsiya dostavki PKR v Odessu proiskhodila v rezhime strogoy sekretnosti i pod prikrytiyem REB. V kachestve “ubiytsy” kreysera vybrali PKR, no ne “Neptun” – kak rasprostranyayetsya ukrainskoy propagandoy, a PKR pyatogo pokoleniya NSM (Naval Strike Missile, dal’nost’ porazheniya – 185 km, razrabotka Norvegiya-SSHA. Etot tip PKR byl vybran iz neobkhodimosti dostizheniya 100% rezul’tata NSM sposobna vykhodit’ na tsel’ po zaprogrammirovannomu marshrutu blagodarya INS s korrektirovkoy po GPS, samostoyatel’no nakhodit’ tsel’, podletaya k ney na vysote 3-5 metrov. Pri vykhode na tsel’ NSM manevriruyet i stavit radioelektronnyye pomekhi. V kachestve sistemy samonavedeniya ispol’zuyetsya vysokochuvstvitel’nyy teplovizor, samostoyatel’no opredelyayushchiy naiboleye uyazvimyye mesta korablya-tseli. V kachestve puskovoy ustanovki byla ispol’zovana statsionarnaya konteynernaya ustanovka, skrytno dostavlennaya na Ukrainu. Takim obrazom, posle povrezhdeniya kreysera “Moskva”, privedshego k yego zatopleniyu u NATO vnov’ otkrylsya vozdushnyy koridor dlya perebroski aviatekhniki na aerodromy Chernovitskoy, Zakarpatskoy i Ivano-Frankovskoy oblastey. Posle unichtozheniya kreysera “Moskva” u Chernomorskogo flota k sozhaleniyu bol’she net ni odnogo korablya s zenitno-raketnoy sistemoy dal’nego radiusa deystviya. Eto teoriya zapadnykh voyennykh ekspertov, poetomu tozhe vsego lish’ teoriya. No ne vso tak plokho dlya Rossii, v Krymu razmeshchena trekhdiapazonnaya RLS “Nebo-M”, kotoraya sposobna otslezhivat’ vse vozdushnyye tseli na dal’nosti do 600 km. Eta RLS kontroliruyet nebo do goroda Chernovtsy.
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    There was no missile attack on Neptune and could not be. There are three official versions:
    1. The cruiser found mines,
    2. Freelance situation,
    3. The cruiser was in the Odessa region, closer to Romania. A new phased array locator was installed on it a year ago, the illumination range is 500 km. Why was he there? Ukrainian planes flew to the airfield in Romania, and from there they took off towards the sea, made a detour, and from the Odessa side went ashore, then flew to Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye, and struck at the Russian troops. All the airfield, in the area of ​​​​Nikolaev and Odessa, were broken, and they could not understand where? Therefore, they drove Moscow with a powerful locator. It began to shine, and from the airfields of the Crimea and from near Donetsk, our Su 35 crests began to be intercepted, so 9 MiGs and Sushki were shot down. All this was calculated by NATO. First, the cruiser was hit by a drone, locators and antennas were smashed. The cruiser shot down one. But already half blind. Then Khokhols launched 2 Neptune cruise missiles from the shore. Guidance was carried out by NATO Orion, which hovered over Romania, he also turned on the electronic warfare, and lit up the cruiser’s air defense detection station. The missiles went to the ship, with the homing heads turned off so that the ship would not detect the radiation beam, the guidance was carried out by NATO Orion. By transmitting the exact coordinates of the ship to the missiles. The result was 2 hits, ammunition detonation, and the cruiser began to sink.
    The Moskva cruiser, in addition to its main purpose – the destruction of KUG and AUG, is capable of providing long-range air defense for a shipborne strike group with the S-300F Fort complex, at a range of detecting air targets up to 300 km.
    The cruiser was assigned the following task: Combat duty 100-120 km from Odessa in order to control the airspace within a radius of 250-300 km. That. ensure that the southern half of Moldova, the space from Izmail to Odessa and part of the territory of Romania (including the port of Constanta) is covered with its location field.
    “Moscow” greatly interfered with the covert transfer of military aircraft (helicopters and planes) from the territory of Romania to the territory of Ukraine.
    The cruiser was monitored by NATO air reconnaissance.
    The destruction of the flagship of the fleet was planned as a strategic task
    Therefore, the operation of delivering anti-ship missiles to Odessa took place in strict secrecy and under the cover of electronic warfare.
    RCC was chosen as the “killer” of the cruiser, but not “Neptune” – as Ukrainian propaganda spreads, but
    RCC of the fifth generation NSM (Naval Strike Missile, range – 185 km, developed by Norway-USA.
    This type of RCC was chosen from the need to achieve a 100% result
    NSM is able to reach the target along the programmed route thanks to the INS with GPS correction, to independently find the target, flying up to it at a height of 3-5 meters. When reaching the target, the NSM maneuvers and puts electronic interference. A highly sensitive thermal imager is used as a homing system, which independently determines the most vulnerable spots of the target ship.
    A stationary container installation, secretly delivered to Ukraine, was used as a launcher. Thus,
    after the damage to the cruiser Moskva, which led to its sinking, NATO reopened an air corridor for the transfer of aircraft to the airfields of the Chernivtsi, Transcarpathian and Ivano-Frankivsk regions.
    After the destruction of the cruiser Moskva, the Black Sea Fleet unfortunately no longer has a single ship with a long-range anti-aircraft missile system.
    This is the theory of Western military experts, so it is also just a theory.

    But not everything is so bad for Russia,
    The three-band Nebo-M radar is located in the Crimea, which is capable of tracking all air targets at a distance of up to 600 km. This radar controls the sky to the city of Chernivtsi.

  2. Alex

    April 23, 2022 at 9:10 am

    And this is very interesting information from Russian sources. I think that it is very similar to the truth.

  3. Vladolph Putler

    April 23, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    I guess claiming it’s an accident is better than dealing with it if it’s NATO. But I strongly suspect that Moskva exposed its location by foolishly shooting down the Bayraktar off the southern coast of Crimea (SA N-6-F). Once the general location is known (radar and/or visual of launch) Neptun could easily get close enough on INS, and pop radar on approach as designed.

    However, the story Russians let slip initially, was that they were distracted by another drone. A drone which might be there as an attritable resource to provide better targeting. A drone obviously not a meaningful threat in and of itself. A competent crew would have avoided tunnel vision on the drone, but there is proof of the incompetence of the crew. Pictures of the ship still with power, sitting low and listing to port. But afloat, with it’s deck firefighting systems spraying walleyed, and untended into the sea. The crew abandoned an OBVIOUSLY savable ship. So I’m going to go with the incompetence theory, as there is proof of that.

    I think NATO is too busy munching popcorn to bother targeting Russian ships. Russia better hope so. 😉

  4. Alex

    April 24, 2022 at 4:14 am

    Another US military analyst openly laughed at the suggestion that the cruiser was sunk by Neptune missiles: “It’s as ridiculous as having an admiral in the non-existent fleet of Ukraine,” he concluded.

  5. Illurion

    April 25, 2022 at 4:55 pm

    Dear Alex:

    – Ukrainian fired Missiles sank your precious Moskva a week ago.

    (now no more “master missile defense co-ordinator” for the black-sea fleet)

    – Ukrainian fired Missiles blew up your Oil Refinery a full 70 miles inside of Russian territory today.

    (now no gasoline for your Donbas invasion)

    – Ukrainian fired Missiles will sink MORE of your black-sea fleet soon.

    (now that the remaining smaller ships can no longer defend themselves in a co-ordinated way against missile attacks)

    – Ukrainian fired Missiles will soon rain down on the captured Crimean territory.

    (now that the “LAND” cannot be protected by the black-sea fleet)

    and if Putin doesn’t stop this war,

    – Ukrainian fired Missiles will destroy the Kremlin, among other buildings in MOSCOW.

    (now that Putin has refused to “TALK”, then “FIGHT” is all that is left, and there is no doubt that NATO HAS, IS, and WILL SUPPORT UKRAINE when “push turns to shove”)

    Putin has made his own bed, but he will NOT be able to sleep in it given that his house is about to be destroyed around him.

    Frankly, i am very disappointed in Putin.

    I have always respected the Putin, and considered him to be “level-headed”,

    BUT,

    i am now surprised at how reckless he actually is.

    This war that Putin started in Ukraine has SHOWED THE ENTIRE WORLD EXACTLY HOW WEAK THAT RUSSIA REALLY IS.

    Russia is a paper tiger.

    No doubt China will absorb what is left of Russia after Putin gets his country defeated.

    No one else is interested in Russian territories, except China.

  6. Alex

    April 26, 2022 at 2:04 am

    The Bandera Nazi began to hallucinate because of cheap drugs, and we’ll talk about the real world.

    Slowly, in order to avoid unnecessary casualties, but confidently and kilometer after kilometer, the people’s militia of Donbass liberates Ukraine from Bandera Nazis. And all because this is the “whole world” with the Ukrainian regime:

    The West failed to turn much of the world against Russia after the military operation in Ukraine began, columnist Howard French wrote in an article for Foreign Policy magazine.
    According to him, many states did not support sanctions against Moscow, including such large countries as India and China.

    “In fact, when counting the population of these countries, it becomes clear that the states representing the majority of humanity have not taken a position in this conflict, seeing in it the familiar echoes of the former rivalry between East and West,” said French.
    According to the observer, the international political system that took shape at the beginning of the twentieth century from the very beginning gave the countries of the “third world” the status of second-class states. As an example, he cited the colonization of Africa by European countries.

    “It was the work of the enslaved millions of people who grew sugar and cotton in huge quantities, cleared the land and did all other unpaid work that made the American colonies profitable for Europe, and the so-called “Old World” new and rich,” the author emphasized.

    French urged not to ignore the heightened sense of justice among the former colonized peoples.

  7. CK

    April 26, 2022 at 10:51 am

    Sorry Alex, you lost me after you said “Slowly, in order to avoid unnecessary casualties” the Russian army advances 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

    If someone wanted to know the truth about anything in Ukraine Alex, the last person they would go to is you.

    Paragraphs and paragraphs of bollocks, dubious claims about “independent journalists”, random documentarians, conspiracy theorists, deluded claims that of course, have no backup, lie after lie after lie.

    Classical Kremlin troll approach. Just flood the internet, the comments, the media, with tosh, doesn’t matter what it is, just make sure you write some old nonsense. Make sure to say the claim is supported by some dude in Germany, France, the states. If it’s a “documentary” (usually from youtube) then the better.

    Anything that victimises Russia, always the victim, always the bullied, never the problem. It’s always the Nazis. It’s always some pseudo-historical point.

    Anyone that has had the misfortune to study your “tactics” sees the forest for the trees, the pattern of lies, disinformation, blanketing of random claims, deflection, obfuscation, and other words beyond your vocabulary.

    It’s hopeless Alex. Your lies are as short as your intellect. What a pathetic job, to sit in your government shed, spreading your pathetic, government lies.

    A pathetic job for a truly pathetic man. A better match could not be made in heaven.

  8. Illurion

    April 27, 2022 at 9:21 am

    Well said CK.

    In summary, what you wrote is:

    “BANDERA NAZI ALEX / TROLL / BOT IS A LIAR, AND A FOOL.”

  9. Alex

    April 29, 2022 at 9:19 am

    If someone wants to know the truth about the civil war in the Donbass, about all the atrocities of the Bandera clean-ups and why Russia was forced to intervene, then it is better to watch films by independent journalists. There are already many such journalists who fight for truth and freedom. For example, a documentary by the German journalist Wilhelm Domcke-Schulz.

    A documentary film about the war crimes of the Bandera Nazis during the period of Russia’s special military operation to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine is in production. It will be a real information bomb, where the war crimes of Bandera Nazis will be shown and proved.

    The documentary “Remember Odessa” tells how the Bandera Nazis burned Ukrainians alive and other heinous war crimes.

    The documentary “To Live and Die in Donbass” tries to fill this gaping information gap in the West. He looks into the tormented soul of the inhabitants of Donbass, who really want only one thing – to live self-determining according to their own rules and values. Not submitting to foreign forces and ideologies.

    In the east of Ukraine, in the Donbass, a war has been raging since the beginning of 2014. A civil war that claimed more than 15,000 lives over the years, including several hundred children. They had to die, because the national-fascist coup government in Kyiv, funded by the West, trained and militarily heavily armed, would not tolerate any resistance to their illegitimate rule, no matter the cost.

    Therefore, in April 2014, the putschists deployed the Ukrainian army, supported by dozens of right-wing extremist volunteer battalions, and have since bombed city centers, residential areas, schools, hospitals and infrastructure, killing civilians.

    This perennial crime has gone completely unnoticed by the Western public. Politicians and the media avoid this topic and reports about how the devil pours holy water. Because a public discussion about the crimes of the Ukrainian regime would reveal only one thing – with what mass murderers and terrorists the so-called “west of values” in Ukraine has a common language, if only to defend their goals and interests.

    Lend-lease is a commodity loan, and not cheap: for all the ammunition, equipment and food supplied by the United States, many future generations of Ukrainian citizens will pay. Zelensky is driving the country into a debt hole.

  10. CK

    April 29, 2022 at 1:51 pm

    Ah, I see your tactic. You add a little shitty first paragraph so it doesn’t detect your duplicate post. Is this what it has come to now, you just posting the same exact post 2, 3, 4, 5 times per article?

    Wow, did they run out of paper in Russia, Alex? You guys can’t print new material? Literally using the same lines, over and over again, and now in duplicate in every post!

    Are you so defeated you can’t even come up with anything new? How sad. Now the idiot is talking about lend-lease at the end of his post, because he literally just copy + pasted it from another thread, with zero relevance to this one.

    Here’s a reminder:

    If someone wanted to know the truth about anything in Ukraine Alex, the last person they would go to is you.

    Paragraphs and paragraphs of bollocks, dubious claims about “independent journalists”, random documentarians, conspiracy theorists, deluded claims that of course, have no backup, lie after lie after lie.

    Classical Kremlin troll approach. Just flood the internet, the comments, the media, with tosh, doesn’t matter what it is, just make sure you write some old nonsense. Make sure to say the claim is supported by some dude in Germany, France, the states. If it’s a “documentary” (usually from youtube) then the better.

    Anything that victimises Russia, always the victim, always the bullied, never the problem. It’s always the Nazis. It’s always some pseudo-historical point.

    Anyone that has had the misfortune to study your “tactics” sees the forest for the trees, the pattern of lies, disinformation, blanketing of random claims, deflection, obfuscation, and other words beyond your vocabulary.

    It’s hopeless Alex. Your lies are as short as your intellect. What a pathetic job, to sit in your government shed, spreading your pathetic, government lies.

    A pathetic job for a truly pathetic man. A better match could not be made in heaven.

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