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Yes, China Would Go To War Over Taiwan

U.S.-China War
PACIFIC OCEAN (Nov. 10, 2015) – The guided-missile destroyer USS Chung-Hoon (DDG 93) fires an SM-2 missile during a live-fire exercise. Sailors from the John C. Stennis Strike Group are participating in a sustainment training exercise (SUSTEX) to prepare for future deployments. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Jonathan Jiang/Released) 151112-N-DA737-424.

Tip of the Iceberg: Pelosi’s Taiwan Visit and Surging U.S.-China Tensions – Defying Beijing’s objections and warnings, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has fulfilled her plans to include Taiwan as a stop on her trip to East Asia. She is the highest-ranking U.S. official to visit the island in 25 years.  Beijing’s warnings about Washington’s growing support for Taiwan have soared since Pelosi announced her intentions in July, with one state media figure even advocating shooting down her plane, along with any U.S. military aircraft serving as an escort.  

Fortunately, China’s government did not adopt such a reckless course. However, it did warn of “serious consequences” to U.S.-PRC relations if the visit went forward. It remains to be seen just how serious those consequences become, but it is clear that Pelosi’s visit has exacerbated already nasty tensions in bilateral relations. Her trip is just the tip of the iceberg, though, with respect to the reasons for the deteriorating relationship between Washington and Beijing.

In some ways, U.S. leaders are making the same mistakes concerning the Taiwan issue that they made in dealing with Russia regarding Ukraine. Taiwan is a vital interest for the PRC just as Ukraine is a vital interest for Russia. Vladimir Putin’s government issued a warning after warning over more than a decade that it would never allow Ukraine to join NATO or become a U.S.-NATO military asset. The escalating warnings culminated in late 2021 when the Kremlin demanded written security assurances from the United States and NATO that Ukraine would be ineligible for membership in the Alliance, the West would not deploy troops or weaponry in that country, and that the United States would reduce its troop presence in other East European nations that were already NATO members. Putin backed up that warning by deploying nearly 200,000 troops on Ukraine’s border.

U.S. officials in four administrations disregarded Moscow’s increasingly pointed warnings, and we are now witnessing the tragic results.  It is imperative that Washington not make the same blunder with respect to China’s warnings about Taiwan. China is as likely to use military force to defend a vital national security interest as Russia was to repel U.S. meddling in Ukraine.  Washington needs to take the PRC’s escalating warnings about outside powers interfering in Taiwan much more seriously than it has to this point. 

The crisis has been building since Taiwanese voters shocked Beijing in 2016 by electing Tsai Ing-wen of the pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) as president and giving the DPP control of the legislature for the first time. PRC leaders had worked with Tsai’s predecessor, Ma Ying-jeou, of the more moderate Kuomintang Party to establish extensive bilateral economic ties.  Beijing aimed to show the Taiwanese that closer cooperation would confer important benefits and pave the way for eventual reunification under the PRC’s proposed “one country, two systems” formula. The 2016 election indicated that the strategy had failed, and Tsai’s re-election in 2020 (following Beijing’s brutal crackdown in Hong Kong) and an even more sweeping DPP landslide than in 2016, emphatically confirmed that point.

Although Tsai is not a pro-independence zealot, her administration has pushed the envelope regarding the island’s de-facto independence to gain greater international status. Pro-Taiwan elements in the U.S. government became ever more enthusiastic supporters of her efforts. In 2018, Congress passed the Taiwan Travel Act, reversing a 4-decade-old policy and authorizing meetings between high-level U.S. officials and their Taiwanese counterparts. National Security Advisor John Bolton then met with Taiwan’s National Security Council Secretary-General, David Lee, during the latter’s visit to Washington in May 2019. Other congressional measures increased U.S. backing for Taiwan, and that trend has continued unabated—with Taiwan’s advocates pushing even stronger stepsStrategic and even outright military cooperation between Washington and Taipei now takes place on an ongoing basis 

As U.S. backing for Taiwan became more evident and substantial during Donald Trump’s administration, so too did PRC warnings that Washington’s conduct was unacceptable.  Beijing’s anger at the Bolton-Lee meeting was palpable, and the tone of the protests hardened as more Cabinet-level officials began to visit the island. Anger built as well over new U.S. arms sales to Taipei that seemed to go well beyond “defensive weapons” authorized in the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act that Congress passed when Washington shifted official diplomatic relations from Taipei to Beijing. The PRC’s suspicions and irritations about U.S. intentions also mounted as the United States increased its naval presence and a mounting number of U.S. warships made provocative passages through the Taiwan Strait.

China’s protests have become increasingly shrill with nearly every U.S. escalation.  In November 2021, the Defense Ministry warned flatly that attempts by Taiwanese leaders to make the island independent, and “outside interference” in support of such ambitions, would mean war.  As usual, the response by U.S. officials was shockingly blasé.  Pentagon spokesman John Kirby stated that the Pentagon saw “no reason why tensions over Taiwan need to lead to anything like confrontation.”

President Xi Jinping’s warning on the eve of Pelosi’s visit that the United States must not “play with fire,” regarding Taiwan and that those who persist in doing so “will perish by it,” should jar the U.S. foreign policy elite from its complacency. The PRC’s increasingly confrontational stance is reminiscent of Russia’s hardening attitude and demand for Western security assurances regarding Ukraine in late 2021 and early 2022. So, too, is Beijing’s growing deployment of air and naval forces near Taiwan. China probably does not want a war with the United States, but just as Russia was willing to fight to repel a threat to its vital interests in Ukraine, China likely will choose that course as a last resort concerning Taiwan. 

Biden’s tone-deaf foreign policy team must realize that Beijing is not bluffing. The administration thoroughly mismanaged the last foreign policy crisis. It cannot afford to mismanage this one.

Ted Galen Carpenter, a senior fellow in defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute and a contributing editor at 19FortyFive, is the author of 13 books and more than 1,100 articles on international affairs. 

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Ted Galen Carpenter, a senior fellow in security studies at the Cato Institute, is the author of 12 books and more than 900 articles on international affairs.  His books include (with Doug Bandow) The Korean Conundrum: America’s Troubled Relations with North and South Korea (Palgrave-Macmillan, 2004).

38 Comments

38 Comments

  1. Ghost Tomahawk

    August 2, 2022 at 5:35 pm

    The problem with US foreign policy is that its not really a policy. Its more like a current tenet of the WH get rich quick scam. It has no consistency. The best thing America could do is pull out of treaties the require us to be the bank shield and sword for everything. Let the world fend for itself and let the map redraw itself. America needs to concentrate on fixing its dead economic model not covering for incapable nation states who need daddy to save the day all the time.

  2. Mike

    August 2, 2022 at 6:03 pm

    You have to Agree . Taiwan is the Corner Stone of Xi’s Power Drive for China/CCP . This Reckless ” Stunt ” for a Look at me Selfie by Pelosi can lead to Disaster for Taiwan . Taiwan did not push for this , Pelosi did and without any sense of the Gravity or the Consequences has put the Taiwanese and their Nation in Grave Danger … !

  3. Taiwan *is* independent.

    August 2, 2022 at 6:23 pm

    Nice article Mr. Carpenter.
    I suppose peddling CCP narrative pays well ?

  4. Goran

    August 2, 2022 at 6:50 pm

    An isolationist who doesn’t think Ukraine and Taiwan should be assisted in the first place, yet goes on to discuss the actual methods of assistance has as much credibility as a vegan that plays buzkashi.

  5. Jim

    August 2, 2022 at 7:32 pm

    Is China going to back off?

    And if they don’t… what steps should the U. S. take?

    There is going to be time…

    We got to get this right.

    The best strategy, for the time being, is the status quo.

    You want Beijing to back off…

    What are the actions you think the U. S. should take?

    We can’t afford to back into this or get it wrong.

  6. Steven

    August 2, 2022 at 8:27 pm

    Like my ol’ Uncle Jack used to say, “Nuke ’em till they glow then use their asses for landing lights…” Huah.

  7. Steven

    August 2, 2022 at 8:31 pm

    Glanced over this… don’t give a damn what the CCP wants. And the only “tragedy” in Ukraine is towards the Russians. The Russian invasion of Ukraine proved what everyone knew: Russia ain’t shit.

    And neither is China. Let them go to war. There is only 1 place in Taiwan where an invasioin can happen. If China wants to put their beautiful shiny new military through that meat grinder, let them!

  8. Ben Leucking

    August 2, 2022 at 9:40 pm

    The author is a graduate of the Neville Chamberlain School of Foreign Policy.

  9. pagar

    August 2, 2022 at 9:45 pm

    The intelligent response is not to opt for war (unless ya a war-loving nation like uncle Sam with a proud history of wars around the planet), but to plan for action in the long term.

    Washington is not going to be satisfied with just doing a minor provocation like this pelosi maneuver.

    US will soon deploy even sell Taiwan hypersonic missiles in the next few years.

    To confront US, china needs to couple with Russia and develop the ultimate in military confrontation – a space-based strike or attack capability that has the performance of striking any target on Earth in a matter of minutes using a kinetic or nuke warhead.

    The US only understands the language of force. As seen and proven in nam and Afghanistan.

  10. David Chang

    August 2, 2022 at 11:16 pm

    God bless people in the world.

    Because of sin,
    if we take moral responsibility, we will avoid nuclear war.

    United States shall restate that one-China policy is the future of pacific security, and acknowledge People’s Republic of China and Republic of China, but accuse Taiwan independence movement and socialism, because of socialism and communist manifesto, many people promote Taiwan independence movement.

    United States should make foreign policy with morality and history for resisting socialism policy around the world. Because many China experts think that democratic progressive party is not leading Taiwan independent movement, but in fact, democratic progressive party is teaching socialism, critical race theory and liberation theology in high school and college.

    And so, with the suggestion of former Japan Prime Minister Abe,
    nuclear sharing policy shall be the policy of Pacific security. United States, People’s Republic of China, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Russia, Japan, Republic of Korea, and Republic of China should take moral responsibility for strategy mistakes.

    God bless America.
    May God has mercy on our souls.

  11. Jacksonian Libertarian

    August 3, 2022 at 12:53 am

    The Communists are a Barking Dog, that hasn’t been in a war in over 40 years. If they ever do start a war, their military will be revealed as an even more corrupt paper tiger than the Russian military, which can’t defeat Ukraine. The West defeated the much more powerful Saddam’s Iraq, twice in days.

  12. Scottfs

    August 3, 2022 at 1:19 am

    We have to grow up and stop funding our demise by giving China hundreds of billions of dollars each year.

    We must free ourselves from dependence in China. International trade will not end, but we need to focus in growing AMERICAN industry. And what global trade we have, needs to come from our allies…not our enemies.

    Trade is king. Let’s use it to our advantage

  13. CRS, DrPH

    August 3, 2022 at 3:56 am

    “Vladimir Putin’s government issued a warning after warning over more than a decade that it would never allow Ukraine to join NATO or become a U.S.-NATO military asset.”

    Sorry, Tedski, but Pooteen invaded Ukraine in support of his “greater USSR” dream. Instead of preventing Ukraine from joining NATO, he drove Sweden and Finland right into NATO’S arms.

    China will whine and moan, but they won’t do anything. They are seeing how Western systems are slicing & dicing Russian battle weapons like the vulnerable SU-35.

  14. Error402

    August 3, 2022 at 5:49 am

    Pelosi’s visit should be treated as part and parcel of the classical approach by a major power to force a lesser nation to a face-to-face confrontation.

    Similar to the Sept 1931 Mukden incident and the July 1937 bridge incident, pelosi’s airport touchdown at the songshan airport (which is also a military airfield) is a foreign power’s attempt to force or induce a political-military confrontation.

  15. Doug Mahon

    August 3, 2022 at 7:58 am

    It seems odd to have a pacifist write an article about confrontation. However, I’m also sure the author is fluent in both Russian & Chinese.

  16. Aboli

    August 3, 2022 at 8:48 am

    It seems more telling of the state of the Chinese Communist Party that it fears an old woman.

  17. Sun Yat-Sen

    August 3, 2022 at 8:54 am

    Everyone is missing the point that even a spoiled fat lucky sperm in North Korea understood: Get nukes and that will keep the neighbors out. Ukraine gave up theirs based on assurances from Russia that they wouldn’t invade and look where that got them.

    Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan could each come up with credible nukes over a long weekend, and delivery systems could be in place soon after that. The US would help if only the State Department was sent on their plush vacations all at the same time.

  18. David Chang

    August 3, 2022 at 9:35 am

    God bless people in the world.

    People who believe socialism should admit that the nuclear weapons policy is not a bluff.

    The meaning of holding nuclear weapon is to declare that you will use it.

    Therefore, former Japan Prime Minister Abe has made it clear to people in Japan that he against the first use of nuclear weapon.

    So Biden and Tsai should also announce that they will give up the first use.

    God bless America.

  19. jeff

    August 3, 2022 at 9:56 am

    Why has 1945 gone on a China supporting binge? Too many have been compromised by China, including our president. We do not have an important interest in Ukraine, but Tawain is another story.

  20. Paddy Manning

    August 3, 2022 at 10:41 am

    This is as good as the tge Cato Unstitute can manage as analysis?
    The oh look we should have appeased Putin school of idiocy? Putin and his party regard Ukraine as a historic mistake. They’ve been emboldened by appeasement and appeasers like this to attempt wipe Ukraine off the map.
    Also nobody was baxk7ng down on 200,00 troops assembled because that was judged far to little to successfully invade and hold Ukraine (as has so proved), a fact that has possibly escaped the boffins at Cato.

  21. Jim

    August 3, 2022 at 11:50 am

    There is a pattern to the warhawk comments… Anybody who suggests Peace is a better policy than war are to be criticized.

    But none of them express a plan for a successful war.

    Why? Because they have no successful plans.

    (Any successful American Wars recently to barrow from?
    Iraq; nope… thousands of dead American service personnel, trillions of dollars wasted, Afghanistan; nope… dead Americans & a trillion spent, Syria; smaller amounts, but failure nevertheless.)

    So they seemingly “cry for war” like Romans cheering at the Coliseum for the gladiator fights.

    I’m sorry, but you can have a 200 I.Q., but be as dumb as a box of rocks if all you want to do is plunge into war.

    Plunging into war with the #2 economy in the world, a continental country without a strategy is the height of stupidity.

    Baying warhawks should not be given serious consideration in the councils of War & Peace.

    Their track record of recent screams, “Don’t let these guys drive the car… they’ll drive us off the cliff like Thelma & Louise.” (It was a fun movie until they drove off the cliff.)

  22. Jim Barnes

    August 3, 2022 at 12:04 pm

    Absolutely the reds would go to war. It’s only just across the straits from their forces and the US would have to expose themselves with a very long and expensive supply line. There’s also the issue of the reds infatuation with carrier killing missiles and weapons. They know we would be using the Carriers to launch planes for the defense of Taiwan. The best defense is to box them in economically and keep them on defense.

  23. Jim

    August 3, 2022 at 12:57 pm

    Just saw a video of a segment of Pelosi’s address in Taiwan…

    A bumbling speech, “‘President’ Benjamin Franklin,”… that lost me right there.

    What the founders wanted for this country was “Peace & Prosperity”.

    The Warhawks talk of “Security” and good economics.

    “Peace” seems to be a dirty word for Warhawks.

    Since, 2001, the Warhawks have failed by their own metrics. (Although, the secret is that “Regime Change” is all they care about… what happens afterward, is an afterthought… and devil gets the hindmost.) It’s the WAR, itself, the Warhawks care about, not whether it works out to benefit the American People afterward.

    Actually, Warhawks USE the American Peoples’ lives & money to carry out their arrogant & grandiose plans for War.

    I don’t think it’s going to be any different if they get their wish for War with China.

    The American People have to wise up to the Warhawk game: understand, these warhawks don’t give a damn about what’s best for America, only that they get to cheerlead their next War of choice.

    Publicly itching for war is an identifier of a man with stupid & dangerous ideas, but is too arrogant to know it.

    (And the Warhawks got the track record to prove it.)

  24. Roger Bacon

    August 3, 2022 at 2:06 pm

    If Ukraine has taught us anything it is this: No nation is truly secure unless it has nuclear weapons. Every advanced country in Aisa that is threatened by China should rush to develop a stockpile of nuclear weapons. South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan are all capable of producing those weapons in short order. I look forward to the day they join the nuclear club. (Then I look forward to the day we develop a 100% efective anti-ballistic missile system).

  25. M.A.

    August 3, 2022 at 2:40 pm

    War is imminent, all the signs are there. Who lights the fuse???
    The West is on its last legs, defending failing democracies and East is massing behind its dictators.
    The war of systems is inevitable and millions will perish in the process.
    God (no hope there) help us all…

  26. David Chang

    August 3, 2022 at 2:48 pm

    God bless people in the world.

    Most 1945 writers oppose U.S. President Trump,
    but I agree with Trump’s first policy, which is to make America under Creator again. And I agree with Trump’s other policy, let people in the world worship Creator together, stop war and live in peace.

    Today, only a few people worship Creator, but more and more people in the world worship science and want to live in peace after nuclear war.

    Victor F. Hess speculate the war after today,
    and he says:
    “Much of my early research was conducted in an observatory I set up on the top of a mountain of the Austrian Alps, 7,000 feet above sea level. It was wonderful to do useful work in such a spot. It was easy to feel oneself near to God.

    In the second place, a scientist is easily led to believe in Divine Providence. More than others, he is forced to realize that mankind is passing through a terrible crisis, a grave transition period. The scientist is faced with the choice between despair and Faith.

    All of us are horrified today — and justly so — by the mass destruction made possible by the discovery of the atomic bomb. Unlike the wartime uses, the peacetime uses of “uranium fission” are still far off. The horrors of mass murder seemed to be the direct result of scientific achievement. All that remains to be done for the utter destruction of civilization seems to be the invention of noiseless and practically invisible airplanes. Then we can destroy — or be destroyed — without the possibility of defense.

    If we are not to despair, we must believe that the discoveries in the realm of atom science cannot be meant to give us merely the means of self-destruction. Surely there must be a Providence behind all this.

    In the third place. I must confess that in all my years of research in physics and geophysics, I have never found one instance in which scientific discovery was in conflict with religious Faith. It is sometimes said that the “necessity” of the “laws” of nature is incompatible with men’s free will and, still more, with miracles. This is not so. When scientists formulate the so-called “laws” of physics, they are fully aware, for example, that they can no more predict the actual life history of an atom of radium1 than they can predict the moral conduct of this or that person.

    Many of our physical laws are in fact merely statistical statements. They hold for the average of a great number of cases. They have no meaning for an individual case. Modern scientists are fully aware of these limitations in their descriptions of physical processes.

    Must a scientist doubt the reality of miracles? As a scientist. I answer emphatically: No. I can see no reason at all why Almighty God, Who created us and all things around us, should not suspend or change — if He finds it wise to do so — the natural, average course of events.

    We scientists are simple observers of this natural, average course of events. We do our share in trying to find out the “laws” which govern this world of ours. In my span of life, discoveries in the field of physics have succeeded one another so rapidly that it is hard for the layman to keep up with them: X-rays, radioactivity, cosmic rays, artificial radioactivity, atom-smashing machines. The fission of uranium led to the most terrible and destructive of all weapons — the atom bomb.

    Must we despair when we see that the final result of so many untiring efforts of such great scientists have led only to mass destruction?

    No. It is true that, in the long history of scientific progress, many inventions have been used in warfare. Think, for instance, of the machines of war designed by the genius of Leonardo da Vinci. Nevertheless, all this progress has likewise served the peaceful purpose of mankind. Modern perfected clockwork has been used in time bombs. It has other uses as well. So of gasoline engines. They can be used not only in tanks and bombers. I’m sure that the urge of self-preservation will finally convince all nations that nothing can be gained by mass destruction of others.

    This is not to say that scientists should turn from scientific discovery to the political problems of world peace. Many people believe that scientists might make better leaders of the nation than statesmen and diplomats. I do not share this view. In our day, scientific research can only be achieved by highly specialized workers. Such men have little time to become familiar with the problems of economics and politics, any more than they have with the problems of philosophy and theology. They may be morally better equipped than the average politician, but few of them are universal enough to be not only scientific but statesman or philosopher as well. In my opinion, a good scientist should not meddle in politics.

    In regard to the deepest issues of mankind, scientists, like many others, are groping in the dark. Nevertheless, a good religious education, combined with scientific training, tends to give a scientist a better understanding both of nature and of human life.

    Real Faith, for a scientist, as for anyone else, is often a matter of bitter struggle. The victory must be won — or the gift must be discovered — by each one in his own soul. It often takes the personal experience of grave danger of death to bring conviction and to prepare the way for Faith in Divine Providence. What is certain is that, when Faith comes, there follows a great serenity of soul and a deep peace in the human heart.”

  27. ARTHUR F LARAMEE

    August 3, 2022 at 3:08 pm

    I despise Nancy Pelosi, but the idea that a small elderly woman who will be out of power in a few months is causing such a fuss is humiliating for the super powerful dominant country of the region. The fact that she id doing it in the face of puppet Biden who owes China big time for all that it has done for his son and by association for Biden himself also diminishes the importance of anything she is doing. Pelosi is not altruistic so you can bet whatever she is up to it is to benefit her directly or indirectly.
    The brouhaha being expressed by so many nowadays is bitterly pleasing since these amazingly inciteful expert analysts are 11 years late to the party. It was obvious what China was up to when they announced their BRI program in 2013 and even before that as they bought their way into property, universities and strategic businesses as well as politicians and businessman even before that. We call other countries corrupt. we are immensely corrupt and our population as well as the Republican politicians we should have been able to count on to protect us have been worthless,

  28. Jim

    August 3, 2022 at 3:41 pm

    M. A., no, war is not inevitable, that is a classic argument for Warhawks: “War is inevitable,” so we might as well get on with the war and beat the enemy to the punch (or back them into a corner with little or no choice).

    Then once the war has started, neocons attempt to shut up any opposition by charging various smears against those who call out the reckless, self-defeating nature of the War.

    If you are smart and work a strategy which aims for peace, but prepares for war as only a last resort, most wars can be avoided.

    The Warhawk problem is that resorting to war is their first choice… while paying lip-service to peace (no wonder their “peace” efforts are meager & half-hearted). Warhawks also project their desire for war onto their perceived enemies… then attempt to blame them.

    People who claim war is inevitable create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  29. Lwayne

    August 3, 2022 at 4:52 pm

    The most important thing that needs to be known is that ALL the leaders of the aggressive attacking nations will be the primary and immediate target. Not much fun or glory in being dead and known as the idiot that destroyed their own nation.

  30. Wharfplank

    August 3, 2022 at 6:22 pm

    I contest the assertion that Taiwan is of supreme “strategic importance” to the PRC…unless they are bent on Western Pacific and Southeast Asian supremacy of the land, air and sea. As far as Ukraine goes, for Putin to get his shorts in a twist over a DEFENSIVE alliance lays bare the lie that he feels threatened by Europe and the West. What he is threatened by is the phasing out of fossil fuels over the next 30 years…corn and wheat grown in Ukraine will, however, never go out of style.

  31. Chris Cha

    August 3, 2022 at 6:38 pm

    Wow… nice China suck-up article written by a CCP puppet.

    We need to unwind ourselves from China’s economy: medical supplies, rare earth metals, and any other critical components first. Then everything else. Move the critical products and materials back to the USA and the rest (electronics, textiles, etc.) to other low-cost countries.

    China’s economy will collapse without access to the US market.

  32. Jim

    August 3, 2022 at 7:19 pm

    Wharfplank, China has wanted “Formosa” since Japan took it by conquest in 1897.

    China suffered colonialism in the 19th century and self-described “humiliations” in the early 20th century.

    The issue of Taiwan’s status has been on the boil a long time. It is more an issue of pride and, in their view, territorial integrity.

    Wharfplank, your view is that war with China is inevitable, and if we don’t stop them now… sounds like the old “Dominoes” theory.

    Yes, a defensive alliance which pushed up to Russia’s border and promoted a government where an ideology of hatred is directed at all Russians, whether they are Ukrainian citizens or not.

    Plus, the real possibility of offensive missiles in Ukraine, and with Ukraine in Nato, a flanking under the Russian heartland by a thousand miles.

    Only a fool would ignore that, just as any American President would be a fool to ignore Chinese military in Mexico (or offensive missiles in Cuba).

    You sound like a neoliberal nabob, babbling about hydrocarbon phase outs.

    Unless, you’re a Luddite, you understand, just this Summer, has proved hydrocarbon phase out is an economy killer.

    But then neoliberals don’t care about the economy… or the average Joe.

    (Actually, Russia produces more corn & wheat and exports more than Ukraine… so, much for cute send offs.)

  33. John

    August 4, 2022 at 6:19 am

    There is probably lots of political theatre in the tough talk, since the U.S. government and China rulers are in cahoots on everything. Xi probably got a suitcase of cash during this trip for helping obscure Covid origins.

  34. David Chang

    August 4, 2022 at 8:07 am

    Wharfplank:

    God bless people in the world.

    Russia will be U.S.S.R. again, and C.C.P. is still the socialism party. So they preach socialism, critical theory and liberation theology in Europe and America, and by teaching the history of Taiwan Province which Portugal call it Formosa.

    From 1947 to 2022, democratic party instigate 4 socialism wars in Europe and Asia.

    The most worrying thing is the American military.

    America Enterprise Institute, Center of New American Security, Brookings Institute, C.S.I.S., and Cato Institute are preaching atheism, such as socialism and ancient Greek-Roman philosophy, and humanism.

    Moreover, communist party philosophy and critical theory that the Frankfurt School preach to people in America has been an education curriculum for U.S. military and ROTC.

    Therefore, democratic party in United States, democratic party in Republic of China, labour party, social democratic party, and communist party in the world are the member of socialism war.

    So your question is important.

    Taiwan-Penghu-Kinmen-Matsu and South China Sea are traps made to destroy USPACFLT.

    So the strategy of USPACFLT is a difficult temptation.

    God bless America.

  35. I. Martin

    August 4, 2022 at 3:11 pm

    Pelosi did the right thing. I don’t know if it was for the right reasons, but whatever! Can’t have it all! All this hand-wringing is pathetic! The timing was perfect! All the complaining is about one thing: wanting to keep the profits flowing from cheap Chinese production! This is not about the imminent threat posed by China or whether we would win or lose in a conflict–it’s clear that we win! It’s just about short term profits, end of story! It’s understandable if so-called U.S. businesses want that, but the U.S. government cooperating is a total abdication of responsibility. Taiwan is home to the world’s sophisticated semiconductor production. China cannot have it! If that eviscerates the very dumb, Nixon-era, One China policy, then so be it.

  36. David Chang

    August 5, 2022 at 3:12 am

    God bless people in the world.

    Pelosi is wrong,
    democratic and republican party is wrong,
    but God is righteous.

    Just as she once protest to C.C.P., because C.C.P. don’t worship social democracy that Pelosi worship.

    But the constitution meaning of social democracy which Pelosi worship is that people have legal right to murder people, such as abortion.

    So Pelosi should confess her sin and repent to God.

    God bless America.

  37. John

    August 5, 2022 at 5:16 pm

    “Yes, China Would Go To War Over Taiwan”

    That’s absolutely what they want the US to think. Mission accomplished.

  38. Trump Supporter

    August 6, 2022 at 1:18 am

    I seem to recall, in 1963, Russia parked some nuclear missiles on a little island called Cuba. That was 90 miles away. Taiwan is about 100 miles from mainland China. Karma is a real bitch!

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